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this is somewhere in the skies with ryan

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spread

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all right so this is pretty surreal for

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me uh this is ryan sprague from

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somewhere in the skies and i am

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reporting on location in the basement

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office that's right i am inside the

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basement office with stephen greenstreet

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and nick pope so you guys know what that

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means

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i think we're getting a little bit more

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of the basement office so guys thank you

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thank you for having me here and thank

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you for doing this today it's awesome

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meeting you i'm so glad this happened

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it's crazy i know you you we see each

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other on all these tv shows or podcasts

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listen to you um but then you see each

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other in the flesh and you're like whoa

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it's real yeah it's actually real yeah

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yeah and this set is exactly what i uh

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envisioned my my

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aspiring basement to look like yeah how

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does it feel to be back in the basement

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office it feels good i mean it's been a

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long time it's been a while so it was

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surreal you know being back and i've

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changed i've changed as a person the

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person i was when i was last in the

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basement office is a different person

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than the the person who's sitting here

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and so i i look at it differently it's

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charming and it's uh it represents a

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part of me that's evolving

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right well let's talk about that for

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just a minute if you don't mind man so

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for anyone who follow follows hashtag

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ufo twitter or is you know

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into this community like we are you

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dropped off of twitter like the one

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place a lot of us got our news from you

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from a lot of other people and um

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everyone was like oh what happened so of

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course the conspiracies start mounting

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when no one has the true answer so i

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gotta ask what uh why did you decide to

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leave us for a little bit and what made

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you want to come back

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the answer is twofold one i was like i

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found myself on twitter a lot on twitter

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a lot and that happens when you get more

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and more followers and you're engaged in

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more conversations you're always

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checking twitter and going back to

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twitter and replying on twitter and

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thinking of the next tweet and things

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like that and i had a show to prepare i

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had basement office season three where i

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was going to be tackling topics i had no

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about i had no kind of like education on

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some of these topics and i wanted to be

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educated and researched and i found

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twitter to be distracting

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you know like i had books to read i had

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files to go through and part of the

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reason i nuked my twitter was like okay

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read and prepare for season three i've

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been there like there's been so many

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times where i just want to leave social

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media and do research and i think that's

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the most responsible thing you can do

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otherwise you're just going to be

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influenced by everything you see coming

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in you'll get distracted by the

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arguments going on so no i i truly

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respect that um

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what you guys are willing to share since

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nick is here season three is there

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anything you can tease to us about what

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basement office well let me jump in and

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i i'm not i i think we need to be

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careful absolutely i don't think we

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should unpack any spoilers

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events old events have been reappraised

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re-evaluated we are perhaps looking

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was called for and it's very timely that

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we do this and i'm going to obviously

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defer to stephen on on how much he wants

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to reveal but people can i think look

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ahead to some surprising twists and

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turns and some material that shall we

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say might not make everyone happy

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kind of feisty and that was awesome when

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we kind of like we upped our energy and

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we really there are some cool moments

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uh after something and that was

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and just in general i would say this

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season is about like what i did it's

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it's a metaphor for my journey the last

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year which is instead of waiting for the

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next breadcrumb like all ufo twitter is

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you get the breadcrumb and you hold on

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to it you're like how precious the bread

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got and then the next breadcrumb jumps

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you know drops and you run over to it oh

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the next breadcrumb i actually about

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faced and i turned around and i looked

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at the entire trail of crumbs that have

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dropped for the last few years i said

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back to the source turn around and see

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if i end up in the same place

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and that's what season three is about i

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love that you're like almost reverse

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engineering in a sense or or walking in

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rewind and i think steven's on a journey

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here right and and has been on one is

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still on one a journey to try and make

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sense of this

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amazing

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um phenomenon with an 80-year backstory

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and a real

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wilderness of mirrors where often things

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are not what they seem and my role i

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think has always been

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i guess to offer a bit of insider

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perspective or someone who sat within

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government looking at this topic not

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professing to have all the answers not

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saying to stephen oh this is the

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absolute truth but as we've seen in

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basement office and we'll see much more

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of in season three helping

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stephen contextualize some of this

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helping stephen find a way to his own

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truth and his own interpretation of

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where we are with this topic

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spoiler alert there will be drones i was

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lot of people on ufo twitter wanted to

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know um will you be talking about drones

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and their place in this entire mystery i

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mean it's the biggest nuisance a ufo

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reach researcher could ask for in terms

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of if they believe this is something

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non-human or whatnot but let's be

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completely honest 99 of what we

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explained conventionally some way

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somehow but yeah will you be tackling

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fascinating drones are rad drones are

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late it's obsession as of late and so of

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that is bled over into season three

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and i think i've dug up some pretty

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incredible stuff you know stuff not many

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people have heard about well nick you

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mentioned government and i want to get

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us up to current day right now i mean

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what was it a few days ago the amendment

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in the uh national defense bill was

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some of what senator gillibrand and

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marco rubio and a lot of these

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department of defense wanting to create

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their own group to look into this so we

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programs group studies going on which is

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crazy to think about in moving into 2022

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that this is where we're at and what has

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happened in the past few years so i'd

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love to get your insight first nick what

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do you make of the aoi msg versus

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asro or whatever it is now um what do

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you make of all this stuff going on

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within the american government there is

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certainly a bit of a dog fight going on

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over this i mean clearly when senator

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gilly brand jilly brand yeah

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julie brand you know i'm a brit i can

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get away with with mispronunciations and

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people say anyway her amendment

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subsequently endorsed and and

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a proper joined up response much more

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accountability and into her amendment of

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course was was this proposal of of

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effectively a sort of oversight

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with organizations like the galileo

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being able to nominate people to sit on

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scientific coalition for ufology and and

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such like sadly that's the one big thing

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that didn't survive the negotiations and

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when i say the negotiations of course

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what what happened was then after the

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julie brand amendment the pentagon came

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and i think there was some gamesmanship

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saying look uh she's getting support for

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this amendment but if we can show that

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we're already gripping this maybe maybe

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and and so there's some negotiation but

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so we are going to get this this much

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more joined up response we are going to

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more oversight and accountability and we

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public report on on what's going on so

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for that the short version is this

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congress is gripping this and they are

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going to make sure that the military and

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the intelligence community take it

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seriously and give us some answers or

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give them some answers of course that's

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the 64 dollar question is

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congress you know the various committees

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they will get some answers the public

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not so much but we will wait and see any

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thoughts on that stephen are we gonna

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see anything the public what do you

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think

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especially in my research for season

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three

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there's a problem there's an issue no

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matter how what you think it is there is

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an issue there's a safety issue

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with unidentified unauthorized objects

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the number of near-misses are way too

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much hell one is way too much and there

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have been dozens and dozens and dozens

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we are in the middle of an absolutely

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infuriating

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unacceptable policy when it comes to

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unidentified objects in the sky

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something's got to change so i see

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all of this stuff as a as greatly

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positive while i disagree on what will

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be found and what will be discovered

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we need to discover it

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summerskies thank you and keep looking

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nick on a personal

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level there was recently some news that

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uh

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the kelvin incident was going to remain

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classified for

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immeasurable more decades in the mod and

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a lot of people wanted to know what uh

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where do you stand now having

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experienced and been a part of the

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investigation of this

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photo this event um are we any closer to

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knowing what happened there uh within

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government or in the public will we ever

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know what happened with the calvine

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incident

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possibly not

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i've seen various ufologists speculate

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and there are all sorts of theories

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doing the rounds but the the bottom line

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is this

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these six photos of this diamond shaped

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object taken

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in scotland in 1990

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were looked at at the time by the

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ministry of defense and we were not able

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to identify the craft

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what happened then was obviously lots of

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different people in the department had

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copies of these photos

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and and we had for example a poster

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sized enlargement of the best one on our

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office wall in secretary at airstaff 2a

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room 8245 mod main building and it was

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there for a couple of years one day my

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head of division

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took it down because he had convinced

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himself that it

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could only be some sort of secret

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prototype hypersonic maybe us spy plane

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and therefore not the sort of thing that

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we should have on the office wall

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years later um

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the mod started a program to declassify

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and release the files

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and and people were saying oh great

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we'll get to see the the calivine photos

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and uh nope the the

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photos and and certainly the enlargement

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seem to have disappeared so what what we

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have left is is basically a very poor

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image of photocopy low resolution

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i did work on

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a recreation of it with with a graphic

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artist

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in la for a tv show and we we produced

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something which was really really good

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so now when you read about this the the

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image that the media use is is virtually

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spot on and that's not just me saying so

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a number of mod colleagues who either

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worked in that office or who worked in

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the division and and

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saw it on our wall have said i think you

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know not least on on my various social

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media feeds when they see that photo oh

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yeah that's it you got it you nailed it

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the story about what's being

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kept secret isn't quite what it seems

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um

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there has been talk that that

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you know the the

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photos will will be they've been sort of

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reclassified we've still got them

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they're in the files the file won't be

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released till about

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2072 or 2076 something like that um

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that's not

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quite what the story is the the story is

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that the identity of the photographers

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is is being withheld and

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those sorts of personal details other

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personal details of mod officials

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including intelligence officials who are

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involved in the investigation that's in

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the original hard copy photo um your

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file of this the case file that is what

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is not going to be released so it's it's

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not even a fan you know you're going to

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get to that date in the far future you

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won't suddenly find oh there are the

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photos they'll either turn up or they

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won't now i'll tell you where i think

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they are or at least where

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some copies of them are

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in the atip and osap files because one

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of the things that did happen with this

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is that it was it was sent to

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cia and various other us agencies so i

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wouldn't be surprised given the amount

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of leaking that has gone on with with

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number of photos videos documents and

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such like i would not be surprised if

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the calvine photos turned up in the

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united states and not the united kingdom

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you heard it here first

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that's right somewhere this guy's

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exclusive stories like that is why nick

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is definitely gonna stay the co-host of

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the basement office that's awesome i

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love that um well right now i am staring

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into the eyes of a wolf

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on the background here at the basement

429
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office so kind of wrapping things up

430
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here guys i know you've been filming all

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day so um thank you for being so

432
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gracious with your time but i gotta ask

433
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this new book came out skinwalkers at

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the pentagon we are now learning again

435
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that maybe some of the mainstream media

436
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got things wrong at the very beginning

437
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in 2017

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and we're learning that this a tip

439
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program

440
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was working on

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pennies

442
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while you know this bigger program

443
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happening at skinwalker ranch was the

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actual program to get the somewhat 22

445
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million dollars um so i gotta ask what

446
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do you guys think of everything going on

447
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with skinwalker ranch will it play a

448
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role in this unraveling of truths or

449
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disclosures in 2022 and uh yeah what do

450
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you make of all that anyone who wants to

451
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take that i uh

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the answer is yes

453
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[Laughter]

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the answer is yes to all of the above

455
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and it does play a major role and you

456
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know that funny enough that book came

457
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out in the towards the end of my journey

458
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my journey where i had i had turned

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around like i said previously and i was

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following the bread crumbs backwards

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what was the first breadcrumb what was

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the first domino

463
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who pushed it who dropped it how did it

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end up there what that was my interest

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how did we get to where we are

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to where the gila amendment exists you

467
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know that is

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just another domino

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let's go back to the beginning and let's

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look at this fresh again

471
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and you know i think right on cue

472
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skinwalkers at the pentagon came out you

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know because that that's something that

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happened a while ago details we hadn't

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heard about and you can take one

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change one detail about an object and it

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can look completely different

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you can remove one thing from something

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and it can take on a whole new picture

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and i think that's the theme of this

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season

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nick anything to add about skinwalkers

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at the pentagon

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it's a fascinating book it's an

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important book

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and clearly there are

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i'll say this politely

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rival narratives at play

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so

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a very short answer from me to this

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following my previous rather lengthy

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ones

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things are murky and things are not

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necessarily what they appear to be

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welcome to ufology well last question

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guys um

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any last words from you guys about uh

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what's to come in 2022 whether with the

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basement office or just the ufo

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conversation overall what do you want to

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leave our listeners

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looking forward to i guess moving moving

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forward here

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um i think one of the messages i would i

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would leave with is one that i've

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delivered a few times the last few

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months which is

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question everything it's okay to

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question everything

510
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uh be worried if you're comfortable

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be worried

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if you trust someone and

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and something like this where it is

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obvious that the intelligence community

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has had played a role a strong role for

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decades

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we should never feel comfortable that we

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know what's going on or that we that

519
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we're being led in the right direction

520
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and

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i want to challenge people i have

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challenged people and

523
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i may lose every single fan of the

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basement office i am risking that

525
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by doing season three

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and i'm willing to do that because i

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think it's important i think it's

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important that people stay

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wary of what's going on and

530
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i will share one analogy that i sh that

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i share in season three if you are a

532
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boat in the ocean on a destination to

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say the truth

534
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and that boat is just one degree

535
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one degree off course after many days

536
00:21:53,110 --> 00:21:51,039
and years it's going to be so far away

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from its original destination it won't

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even see it in the horizon

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and i guess this season of basement

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office i'm

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readjusting the boat

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any last words nick

543
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well i think as stephen said

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there has been

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how shall i put this some dramatic

546
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tension between us in this season three

547
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that maybe wasn't there certainly to

548
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this extent in seasons one or season two

549
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and i think in one sense it would be a

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very boring world if everyone agreed

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with each other all the time and what

552
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you will not necessarily see in season

553
00:22:35,669 --> 00:22:32,799
three is stephen and i nodding and

554
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agreeing on absolutely everything there

555
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there are there are some differences but

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what i would

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leave your listeners with is is this

558
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like what wherever we end up with this

559
00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:48,640
with with season three of of the

560
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basement office but with the wider

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story that is now unfolding

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expect the unexpected

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don't be afraid to say at any point if

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the data are pointing that way i was

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wrong

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you know it's it's okay to change your

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mind about something

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and wherever we end up

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we are living in exciting times and

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there have been developments on this

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topic

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which i think four years ago would have

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been

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inconceivable and people say

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is there more to come

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well the best indication of what's going

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to happen in the future is is what's

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happened in the recent past so yes i

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confidently predict there is more to

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come

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exciting is an understatement i'm

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excited guys when and where if you can

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share uh will we be able to see the

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basement office season three that may be

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classified that may be classified nick

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classified for now yeah stephen

587
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greenstreet nick pope thank you so much

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for your time today and for allowing me

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into the basement office i feel like i'm

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uh i'm part of the club now yeah thank

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you you're welcome i was good to talk to

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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somewhere in the skies is produced by

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third kind productions in association